April 11, 2004

Another reasoned argument from the left...

Roxanne's friend "sam" has ridden in on his white charger to rescue her from the clutches of the evil VRWC (in the person of yours truly).

Let's see what sam, IP address, with the wonderfully creative fake email address of eatmebitch@yahoo.com, has to say in the comments to this post:

Zieg Hiel you goose-steppin' Nazis. As far I as I know, we still live in America and have the right to question the authority of our leaders (and no thanks to people like you who blindly follow, unless it's Bill Clinton --- and by the way, it's soooooooo passe to spell Clinton with a "K"). If you don't understand this, perhaps you could read some John Mill.

sam apparently didn't read this post, where I tried to help him understand the difference between disagreement and trolling, otherwise he'd realize that he's the troll here...

Posted by Susie at April 11, 2004 07:15 PM

What is this thing that the left has with Nazi's and Hitler and all that?

I have yet to see crowds of people saying Hiel Bush - even if they like him, they tend to clap and maybe whistle, not a single raised arm salute.

I see no huge groups of people being herded onto cattle cars and disappearing into concentration camps. Unless there are camps I've missed somewhere?

I see no mass graves - large graveyards yes, the country has been around for a while, mass graves no - not even for paupers.

And shall we get even more picky... I don't even see any of the Hollywood left being arrested for making statements to the press. I don't see authors being arrested, books burned. I don't see television being taken over by the government.

So, where exactly does the analogy come from? Guess I'm a leetle slow - I'm still missing it after all these years.

Posted by: Teresa at April 11, 2004 08:28 PM

"John Stuart Mill, of his own free will,
On half a pint of shandy was particularly ill."

That John Mill? I don't recall him having an opinion on the spelling of "Klinton" but perhaps I missed one of his more obscure articles he wrote while channeling Bentham. But probably not, as that would probably have to be the indirect approach of syllogism, rather than the more Mills-like inductive approach.

I can only guess we're talking about Mill's "Considerations on Representative Government, and "Thoughts on Parliamentary Reform", and perhaps, "On Liberty".

To me, it seems Kerry and the Democrats fail as thoroughly as Bush, and I don't think Sam really wants us to apply Mill's "Utilitarianism" arguments to Democrat policy, either.

Of course, Sam, the mutual argument founders on the assumptions - what constitutes 'happiness' in the target population.

I strongly suspect that much of your happiness would not mesh with my happiness, so we're going to have to settle that out first, ain't we?

I'm going to make a margarita now. This Bush=Hitler stuff bores me (and I'm just guessing, but wouldn't impress Mill, either).

Posted by: John of Argghhh! at April 11, 2004 09:07 PM

What a charmer. And smart! Think he's single?


Posted by: Jennifer at April 11, 2004 10:28 PM

YAY! Godwin's Law! You win, Susie! :-)

Posted by: Harvey at April 11, 2004 11:02 PM

John - nice take-down :-)

Posted by: Harvey at April 11, 2004 11:04 PM

The whole Bush/Hitler thing never fails to amuse me.
Hitler was a socialist. Remove the racial cleansing and nationalism from the nazi party line, and their policy is almost identical to the green party.

Posted by: Graumagus at April 12, 2004 12:47 PM