August 10, 2005


Harvey pointed me to a post about discrimination by Graumagus at Frizzen Sparks. If you are a fan of political correctness, don't click those links--the hypocrisy of the PC crowd is detailed in all its ugliness.

I steadfastly refuse to identify myself as "white" in surveys that ask for race. White is a color, not a race. My race is Caucasian, and my ethnic origin is European-American. Even if I were asked my color, I would have to say sort of pinky-beige, rather than white.

Just asking the question shows discrimination. Why should it matter whether I am Caucasian, Hispanic, African American or Aboriginal, unless someone is planning on using that information to draw certain conclusions or make decisions based on it? (And what is it called when you do that? Yep--discrimination).

America has always been a "melting pot." My ancestry is a mongrel Irish/English/French/German/Polish. While that may sound perfectly normal to other Americans (or Canadians or Aussies), think of those nationalities in their historical perspective as allies/enemies in Europe....

Judging by the ethnic composition of many of the families that come to see movies at my theater, America is still a melting pot; what will those children whose mother is "white" and whose father is "Hispanic" check as race on surveys? What about "white" father and "Oriental" mother? "Oriental" father and "African American" mother? Will those children be forced to make value judgments as to which parent's race is "better" to choose, that of their "white" mother or their "black" father?

Survey makers need to wise up and drop the questions of race. At the very minimum, they need to change the question to "check all that apply." I think they might be surprised by the diversity of the answers they'll get....

Posted by Susie at August 10, 2005 10:29 AM | TrackBack

Hey youre almost like me.

I'm Scots/Irish on my dad's side (with maybe a shred of Romano/Celt somewhere deep in there, judging by the dark curly hair)

And French/Swiss/German on my mom's side.

Posted by: Citizen Grim at August 10, 2005 11:01 AM

mostly german with a bit of irish

and frankly, race (or rather, the physical characteristics associated with race) should only be used for descriptive purposes (i.e. black guy, white guy, asian guy, etc etc). all this 'african american' and 'mexican american' stuff is a bunch of crap. they're either american or they're not (except for those few with dual citizenships). there was a white kid from south africa that campaigned for 'african american student of the year' at some high school, and everybody was all up in arms over it. ridiculous.

Posted by: Patriot Xeno at August 10, 2005 12:25 PM

and grim, you don't have dark curly hair.

Posted by: Patriot Xeno at August 10, 2005 12:26 PM

Um, I know that.

My dad does, and all my uncles & aunts on that side of the family.

ha, I would look like a freak.

Posted by: Andy at August 10, 2005 11:27 PM

I'm quite unclear on my ancestry, outside of a grandfather from Sweden.

Posted by: Harvey at August 11, 2005 04:04 PM

In my line of work, I get handed those "voluntary" EEOC surveys. I always hand it back.

More than once I'm certain that's cost me a job.


Posted by: J Fielek at August 11, 2005 08:43 PM

One of my best friends is the child of two immigrant parents - her mom is from Puerto Rico, and her dad is from India. When filling out college applications, she *always* chose Hispanic as her race, because she was more likely to get scholarships and grants based on that racial identification rather than the Asian/Indian response.

I'm at least 1/8 Native American when it comes down to it, but my heritage is such a mixed bag that I can't even pin down most of it. I just answer Caucasian because it really doesn't matter to me.

You have a great point, Susie. (Harv may remember what I said to him last time I told him *he* had a point... I won't pick on you though!)

Posted by: songstress7 at August 11, 2005 10:56 PM

Try my response to that question - I describe myself as "Other" on these forms and then write:
"African anglo-saxon hibernian norman."

They never ask for a repeat.

Posted by: The Gray Monk at August 12, 2005 03:19 AM

Next time I get one of those I'm going to check "Other" and list myself as "American".

Screw those assholes.

Posted by: Graumagus at August 14, 2005 02:00 PM

Just noticed on a fave bloggish page (

Posted by: S at August 19, 2005 11:24 PM